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Topic Started: May 3 2014, 01:21 PM (982 Views)
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I seem to make a topic in here about once a week or so, so I thought I'd give it another crack.

Myself personally - I'm starting to ponder whether we dwell too far into our little gadgets that we miss the simple times of conversation. Kids wanting to be kept inside behind a computer screen instead of actually gathering playing outside. My gut feeling is that the new generation will be turned into the cotton wool generation - the percentage of people taking risks will be minimal, which will leave little for love, life and all that goes along with it. We might end up going backwards?

Any thoughts?
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Nah that argument's been going since records began. Every generation thinks the next is lazy and unadventurous. Truth is that we probably have more adventurers and explorers than ever before. Way, way more athletes too. People will always want to get out and do stuff regardless of how comfortable they could be sitting at home.

As for the ones who do stay behind a computer screen, that's not so bad. Better than them being out getting into trouble. Especially with all the drugs around these days.


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Yeah but in 10 years if every kid is just inside on the computer all the time, well that's just sad really.

Most kids over like 7 or 8 if they're outside playing then it's probably because their family can't afford a computer or phone for them, sitting playing CoD or whatever else seems more ideal these days.
Kids do still play outside but ones with computers and such a lot less than previous generations.

People who never had phones and stuff seem to appreciate the outdoors a lot more but those that do just stay in most of the time. Which is why if I have kids they're not getting a phone until they're like 12, or some piece of s*** thing when they're 8 just so they can keep in contact.
Don't even see that much encouragement on TV for kids to go outside.


So yeah I think people are too obsessed, even dependant on all their gadgets in this age and it's only going to get worse. Have you seen how much people complain if they don't have internet for a week? It's like their dog got shot.
Older people too everyone just has their heads down at their phones all the time. (by older I mean like teens to 20's)

Perhaps it's just the economy but not many kids go out for Halloween either compared to years ago.
Though I guess it's good if they're eating less sweets :p
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Who decides that playing outside is better than being on a PC?

I only have like two close real life friends nowadays, for many reasons, being broke, living too far away etc, so Facebook is really the only way we can communicate. I also hate my family. Most of the people I'm close to nowadays, suckas, Crash, Pointer, Yoshi, I have all met online, and quite frankly, I'd prefer to be inside, with food, Coca-Cola, TV, my forum buds and Gimp than being outside, by myself, likely to get jumped judging my area.
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May 3 2014, 02:31 PM
Who decides that playing outside is better than being on a PC?

I only have like two close real life friends nowadays, for many reasons, being broke, living too far away etc, so Facebook is really the only way we can communicate. I also hate my family. Most of the people I'm close to nowadays, suckas, Crash, Pointer, Yoshi, I have all met online, and quite frankly, I'd prefer to be inside, with food, Coca-Cola, TV, my forum buds and Gimp than being outside, by myself, likely to get jumped judging my area.
Who decides that being on a PC is better than playing outside?

Out of curiousity - how does real life conversation go for you majority of the time?

I'm mainly a computer person - I can talk a lot better on here than I can face to face.
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It depends. I can talk to family, friends, dates, just fine, I just feel uncomfortable in other cases. If I wanna talk to a stranger, ill do it, if not, I try to exit the conversation ASAP.
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In topics like these, there's always anecdotal evidence. While you may not see many kids playing on the streets, I'm sure that that's not the case in other areas. Even looking at a specific example, there are explanation beyond mere technology and laziness. With all the cases of kidnappings and assaults, many parents don't feel comfortable letting their children play outside, for fear that they'll fall victim to such crimes. That's a result of the growing presence of technology and news, yes, but it's an indirect effect.
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May 3 2014, 02:31 PM
Who decides that playing outside is better than being on a PC?
The fact that fresh air and sunlight is important for development both in growth and fitness.

Kids shouldn't be sitting around all day getting fat playing games.
There's nothing wrong with mostly having online friends and things like that, can't help being shy or not living near other kids.

But go out for a walk every day or something at the very least.
Most kids if they could get away with never going to school and staying in the house forever they would.

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With all the cases of kidnappings and assaults, many parents don't feel comfortable letting their children play outside, for fear that they'll fall victim to such crimes. That's a result of the growing presence of technology and news, yes, but it's an indirect effect.
But that's just being far too over protective kids need to go out and play, make friends, social connections.

I can't remember the numbers but compared to today and like the 80's 90's social anxiety cases have went through the roof, kids can just sit inside all day only talking to family or people on the internet and all it does is make the problem much worse.
They don't know how to interact with people properly and being able to sit in all day on the internet or whatever is just enabling them to crawl deeper and deeper in to the proverbial shell.

Social anxiety unless born from another illness isn't anything genetic it's a mental issue people form by not getting to know how to be around people.
Social media can help sure you might meet a couple of people you talked to online and that's awesome but going outside and getting to know people is what gets people out of their shell not electronic technology.

Sitting on Facebook all day does not help in the long run if you don't make friends during your childhood years you're not likely to ever know how to and then that further applies to not being able to get jobs or do other things involving people.
Also leads people down a depressive spiral of loneliness in a lot of cases.

I'm sure many people on this very forum could attest to the fact that they can't just "go talk to people" and while in some cases it could be mental illness that caused that, anyone willing to admit otherwise will say they just never went out to play with other kids or there were none when they were younger. (sorry if that sounds harsh, not intended) in other cases bullying could be a cause but that's about it.



Long story short kids need to play outside and develop themselves not stay in staring at a screen all day like a mindless zombie, then be thrown at adulthood where they have to function like a normal human as they never have done.
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There's kids now with social issues because they don't know how to sit down and talk to people because they're constantly talking to people indirectly through devices.

It's bad, in other words.

But to be completely honest, these parents supplement it. There's no reason for an 8 year old to have an iPhone. That to me makes absolutely no sense.
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Hell I'm 16 and I haven't even had a phone...Surprises me when I see kids that are 7 or even 6 with IPhones and Androids and they complain to all hell when it gets taken away. Makes me want to just say "Be happy you have one..."

Of course with the advent of more technology more problems arise, more anti-socials seem to be the biggest problem here. Which I will say is a big problem but I'm pretty sure when phones were first invented this was a fear that many had. in my experience my buds have no problem with hanging out outside, of course they're on their phones alot. But they're always down to chill. This goes back to Naked Snake's post in that certain areas seem to be different. Of course I'm somewhat of a anti-social myself but that's mostly because I have virtually zero friends, and the people that I'm ready to step up from Acquaintance status to friend status my Mom doesn't approve of because "lol Pot Smoker". It's more of the parent's fault it would seem in these cases and how they shape kids at an early age, in the same way some kids are taught that smoking is a bad habit, kids can be taught that staying inside all day erryday isn't exactly the best idea for overall health, but they would also need friends to hang out with. I don't know about you guys but I feel awkward as all hell being outside alone by myself playing Basketball or Jogging. It's nowhere near as easygoing as some make it out to be.
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Whoever says being an introvert is a bad thing?

Some people prefer being alone over being with people (like me for an example). Can someone explain to me what exactly is wrong with this?
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Yeah how the kids are raised is actually more of an issue, having a phone or whatever really young is basically like a gateway in to becoming a recluse.

I don't think games consoles are too bad, they can have friends over to mess around with every now and then but parents need to kick their kids out the door more often.


Social anxiety isn't something that's always destined to happen to people, if parents raise their kids with a "do whatever you want" attitude and pay no notice to them being inside all the time, they're at fault.
Being a persistent parent is the best way despite how harsh it might seem and how awful it might make you feel, by that I mean like when your kid is learning to ride a bike and they inevitably fall and scrape their knee, they need put back on the bike not to be enabled to stay away from bikes forever.
Exactly the same with making friends, unless there's a mental issue at play.

If kids are mean to them don't let them hide in their rooms all their life, send them out again and if it keeps happening have a word with the parents of whoever is being mean. If all that goes down the crapper then getting them to have a hobby like football works.


Beyond social issues ask your local paediatrician if kids should go out and play, if they say no they should be fired. It's just not healthy.


EDIT there's nothing wrong with being an introvert but letting someone get like that is irresponsible it's a really lonely way to live.
I hate people and avoid them constantly even family but still make sure to take the dog out twice a day or just go for a walk, as much as I like to sit in and play games.
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May 3 2014, 06:27 PM
Whoever says being an introvert is a bad thing?

Some people prefer being alone over being with people (like me for an example). Can someone explain to me what exactly is wrong with this?
If you're not what the majority are, you're wrong is basically the jist and vibe I'm getting.

There's nothing wrong since trying to force introvert's to be extrovert's would be...it wouldn't be successful in any way possible. The way I look at it, it's basically trying to supress what you are.
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May 3 2014, 06:32 PM
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May 3 2014, 06:27 PM
Whoever says being an introvert is a bad thing?

Some people prefer being alone over being with people (like me for an example). Can someone explain to me what exactly is wrong with this?
If you're not what the majority are, you're wrong is basically the jist and vibe I'm getting.

There's nothing wrong since trying to force introvert's to be extrovert's would be...it wouldn't be successful in any way possible. The way I look at it, it's basically trying to supress what you are.
I guess I was being a bit rash.

All I meant to say people have their reasons for wanting to be alone as much as people wanting to go out and get drunk and whatnot. I personally don't like social activitty that much and outside school and work, I prefer being alone just chilling. It's hard for a lot of people to comprehend since they think their lifestyle is the only "normal" way and they can't comprehend the life's of others. One person in my family comes to mind.
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May 3 2014, 06:48 PM
All I meant to say people have their reasons for wanting to be alone as much as people wanting to go out and get drunk and whatnot. I personally don't like social activitty that much and outside school and work, I prefer being alone just chilling. It's hard for a lot of people to comprehend since they think their lifestyle is the only "normal" way and they can't comprehend the life's of others. One person in my family comes to mind.
Well there's a difference between being an introvert and gaining social anxiety through lack of human interaction though, being an introvert is a lifestyle choice/preference but having anxiety you literally just can't function around people.

So it's important that kids are made to at least be capable of talking to people and to go outside often, even if they just avoid everyone.


My anxiety comes from mental problems but it's no different from others really, so far as I can tell.
If I found someone laying on the ground injured, I'd walk away. I simply could not phone an ambulance or shout for help, would just end up having a panic attack and then there'd be two people on the ground needing assistance...

So that kind of problem is what's not "normal" and enabling kids to be shut ins before they've even had an actual childhood can lead to that far too often.
Then there's other future issues like never getting a job due to it, being too nervous to go to college in order to be able to get a decent job too.
It puts a big burden on your family to have to pay for your food and everything when you're an adult but there's no fast way to help yourself be "normal"
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